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Thornton Lacey
Posted: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:49:11 PM
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Now that all the brouhaha over Avatar is dying down, I wonder if anyone else is feeling like I do, that Director James Cameron was just fooling us again. He used what both my male and female friends agree were strong female characters. But wait. Before I give him any gold stars, maybe we should consider if the characters were more stereotypical than realistic. The biologist played by Sigourney Weaver was the token superbrain, reminding me of how women have to be geniuses in order to get the credit average men get. The combat pilot played by Michelle Rodriguez was the token superathlete, reminding me of how women have to be fast-reacting, musclebound, and self-sacrificing where men only have to be soldiers. Yawn. (Last week I met a real young woman who had just completed a tour of duty in Iraq, and she was interesting in many ways, but not the least bit butch.) And then there was the Na'vi princess love interest. All love interest characters seem to need to have impossible bodies, just in case any teenage girls might not have gotten the message yet that they have to be thin to be loved. Cameron must have believed he was being understanding and sympathetic to women's issues by making use of these characters, but he was just making further contributions to a society that keeps women down.
Rita@Goldivas
Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 10:53:23 AM
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I totally agree. We may have come a long way, baby, but we have a long way to go! I worry about the messages that we're sending to young girls. And yes, women haven't overcome many of the workplace issues, it just seems these issues have gone underground. And that can make it more difficult to deal with.
Thornton Lacey
Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:56:49 PM
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Avatar was embraced overwhelmingly by young men as the best sci-fi story ever, largely I suppose for the wonderful special effects in 3-D. But I cringe when I think of boys watching these images of women, and not even noticing what they are seeing. The second-class treatment of women is so entrenched in our society that it's invisible to them. Boys absorb the idea that their ideal mates must be thin the way they absorb the idea that pink is sissy. Yesterday, at my workout, an episode of The Simpsons was on the gym TV, so I watched it for ten minutes and counted the male characters to female. It was twelve to one. Even in other Simpsons episodes when Lisa goes on her intelligent crusades, where you'd think we can applaud the treatment of females in fiction, she fails to make a lasting impact. The male characters give a nod to her righteousness and go back to their vacuous pursuits as before, while still somehow remaining the leaders. Our boys are learning that no amount of appalling behaviour will prevent men from carrying the story! No wonder our girls feel such a disconnect.
Terry
Posted: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 3:44:15 PM
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TL, you are so right! I just saw this item on Geena Davis, who also agrees with you: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5juWbhbheagQVbxeEmbYqgWCQBABQ
Nancy
Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:04:35 AM
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There is a a real danger of the women's movement losing ground because the younger women think all the battles are over. And it is more difficult to fight the more subtle messages that you have pointed out. Complaining about blatant discrimination, for example help wanted ads that designate men or women back in the old days was so much simpler. Also I think except for so-called "chick flicks", movie makers think young males are the only worthwhile audience. But I don't know how we can change that.
Diane
Posted: Thursday, February 25, 2010 11:01:59 AM
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I think this is an issue we can all get behind. Thanks for bringing it up, Thornton. And thanks Terry, for the info on the Geena Davis Institute. I’ve checked out the Institute and I like what they’re doing. If we all sent five friends there, it would be a big help. I’m targeting the Institute for my next charitable contribution.

http://www.thegeenadavisinstitute.org/
Rita@Goldivas
Posted: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:52:55 AM
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I agree this is a huge issue, and I like Geena's organization. Maybe I'll do an article on that next issue. Thanks TL and Terry.
Cjay
Posted: Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:25:23 PM
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I think the pressure on girls and young women has gotten worse. And lately I read that young men expect their girlfriends to look like the air-brushed models on magazine covers. Where does this all end?
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